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George VIII of Georgia[]

Two questions: concerning “Marriage and children”

1. The name of the father of the children of King George VIII. is given as “Alexander”, but should it not be rather George?

2. The second wife of King George is mentioned as Nestan-Darejan, of unknown origin. Can she be identified with the unnamed daughter of Theodore Kantakouzenos (* after 1361, + 1410) as indicated in the Article on Theodore ? --W.ehrlich (talk) 06:07, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Isaac Saul[]

Hi there! I recently created this article, and I was curious if anyone wants to review it. I'm especially curious to see whether it meets notablility (I think it does, since I found several news stories about him, but I'm not sure), and how I can improve the writing style. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kokopelli7309 (talkcontribs) 13:58, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Nostradamus Featured article review[]

I have nominated Nostradamus for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 23:37, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Hundreds of articles use "genius" or "genius award" for MacArthur Fellowships, removal as WP:PUFF[]

The search tool finds 937 hits for "Macarthur genius", a large proportion of which are bio pages of MacArthur Fellowship winners stating that they received "MacArthur genius grants" or similar language with the word "genius".

Clearly those references to "genius" should all be gone as it is not part of the formal or encyclopedic name for the awards, and violates WP:PUFF.

Calling attention to it here in case of interest in crowdsourcing, or in adding it explicitly to relevant guideline pages. 73.89.25.252 (talk) 00:40, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

Betches Article[]

Hi, I'm not certain if Betches' talk page needs to be marked as part of WikiProject Biography. The explicit topic is a business, but it discusses a lot of information about the lives of the owners. It's currently not under any wikiprojects, but I am uncertain of who it should go with. Please ping me if you respond. Thanks! --Xurizuri (talk) 10:22, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

Jeff Skoll Honours and awards[]

Hello! I've asked here if editors could review the appropriateness of including additional recognition to the article for film producer and philanthropist Jeff Skoll. I welcome feedback. I have a conflict of interest because I work with the Jeff Skoll Group. I am careful to build consensus in place of directly editing the article. Thank you. JSG Lindsey () 01:44, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

February 2021 at Women in Red[]

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Help improving Nate Morris article[]

Hello All, I am a paid representative for Nate Morris, here to help improve the current article. More about me is on my userpage. I know I shouldn't update the live text on my own because of my "conflict of interest". The article in its current state leaves much room for improvement in terms of quality Wikipedia content, as I understand it. Recently, I posted an entirely new draft of the article, attempting to shore up references and improve content relevance, readability, and overall quality as an encyclopedic, biographical entry. Having received no replies yet, I'm posting here in case there could be interested editors to assist. My request can be seen here: Talk:Nate Morris#Well-sourced_draft:_Rewrite. Thanks! MS rep 4 NMorris (talk) 17:23, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Mohammad Abdi's page[]

Hello,

I noticed hat Mohammed Abdi's page has been considered to be deleted. I would like to verify the sources mentioned on the page. I also have few more resources to add but dont know how to do inline citation. (talk) 09:31, 28 January 2021 (UTC)MahshidZam ,1/28/2020

FAR notice[]

I have nominated Bob McEwen for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Hog Farm Talk 01:03, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

Use of autographs in the signature field[]

I posted a question to WikiProject Formula One asking about the possibility of using autographs in signature fields which seems to be done for some actors/directors. I haven't received a response yet but I would appreciate input from editors here on whether or not this would be acceptable.
5225C (talkcontributions) 00:18, 1 February 2021 (UTC) Please ping

Legacy of Fred Trump[]

In the article of Fred Trump the last chapter is called legacy. It is not objective but highly subjective. The point of this chapter is clearly to put a negative spin on Donald and Fred Trump. To quote Seth MacFarlane on his view on Trump is not relevant because he supports the Democrates and is clearly biased in this matter. All in all this chapter is useless. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 17:21, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

@: The place to discuss this would be at Talk:Fred Trump. But note that your objection to the content on the basis that MacFarlane is biased, is irrelevant. We often include criticism and praise about various subjects. Example: Film critics might hate or love a movie. That is bias, yet we include film critic quotes in film articles. What we endeavour to do, however, is present criticism and praise in such a way as to maintain Wikipedia's neutrality. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:38, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Assistance required please[]

Hi, I have created a biography page about Dr Eve Afifa Kheir, a very renouned scholar in the minority Druze community. It is the first time I create a page. It is the third time the page gets reviewed. After the first review I added a great number of new reliable outside neutral sources. The professor is very highly revered in the minority Druze community and the information I provided is all backed up by proper reliable references. It seems that since the references are mainly in languages that the reviewers are not necessarily familiar with, they tended to believe that they are not reliable sources. This review process seems very unprofessional. The previous reviewer only asked to add more references and so I did. I would appreciate it if you can assist in having this draft reviewed professionally and accepted since it is important for the minority Druze community to acknowledge their highly revered scholars and pioneering women. Thank you for your time. Here's the link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Eve_Afifa_Kheir (talk) 23:09, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

British Bake Off winners under discussion[]

I have started the discussion about individual winners of The Great British Bake Off at Talk:The Great British Bake Off. --George Ho (talk) 22:58, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

FAR notice[]

I have nominated John Brooke-Little for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Hog Farm Talk 01:55, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Bot management of year of birth/death categories[]

Your opinions are welcome at Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#Bot to remove year of birth/death categories when the claim is removed from the article body. — The Earwig ⟨talk⟩ 16:14, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

Describing child's cause of death in parent's biography[]

I've searched policies and the MOS but haven't been able to find one: is there a policy or even a style guide on whether the cause of death of a person's child is encyclopedic for the parent's article? Specifically, in the Wikipedia article for Laura Berman, is the third sentence encyclopedic in this three-sentence "Personal life" section of her article?

Berman is married to Samuel Chapman. During the course of their marriage, Chapman and Berman became the parents of three sons: Ethan (born 1996), Sam (2004–2021), and Jackson (born 2005). Sam died on February 7, 2021, aged 16, from what his parents believe to be fentanyl laced Xanax or Percocet which he bought from a drug dealer on Snapchat and were delivered to his house.

The information is correct and is properly referenced to multiple reliable sources. Privacy isn't really an issue since it's been all over the news, and Berman has done multiple television news interviews on his death, including several on the day after he died. Even WP:NOTNEWS only gives guidance for whole articles, not for a sentence within an article (since there's no disputing Laura Berman is sufficiently notable to have a Wikipedia article [and the article was created in 2009]). My question is simply: is the cause of her son's death sufficiently encyclopedic to be in the article about her? OCNative (talk) 01:18, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

I don't know of any policy that deals with this specifically and I would be surprised if there were. It's probably been dealt with in page-specific consensuses before, and whether or not it's encyclopedic I imagine should be decided case-by-case for each article. For example the exact details of how and when a monarch's heir dies is probably extremely relevant in a way that the death of, say, a physicist's child would not be. My feeling after looking over this particular page is that this information is probably not related to her encyclopedic notability at the moment and I think the page would be better if the information were removed. But as you note, that's not because it's private information or anything, I just don't think it's relevant to the purpose of an encyclopedia page about her (though of course that could change with time). What is however not permitted by policy is including the birth years of her surviving children without citations (WP:BLPPRIVACY is explicit that we list the birth year of a living person "provided that there is a reliable source for it"), so I've removed those. - Astrophobe (talk) 03:18, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
I think case-by-case is best. There shouldn't be a project-wide policy. I think in this case it should be included. Prominence in sources should count for a lot. Is the reader best served by including or omitting? Bus stop (talk) 03:37, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
I also think it depends on the circumstances, while being more sensitive to the privacy concerns for parents who are BLPs. The parents seem to be making many public statements about their son's death here, and if a parent talks a lot about the death of their child to the media, that is probably going to be enough to find it to be a significant aspect of their biography. – wallyfromdilbert (talk) 08:38, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

Music Bands/Groups in BLP ?![]

Asking for some advice: Had comments about that Music Groups and Bands need to be tagged for this project - well, what I've learned at University is a biography is always about a single person ("A biography, or simply bio, is a detailed description of a person's life.", taken from our own article). Can somebody point me into any direction that might be helpful!? Thanks in advance. CommanderWaterford (talk) 12:54, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

G. Ledyard Stebbins Featured article review[]

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Proposed deletion of José Silva (parapsychologist)[]

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Unreferenced article with a slanted POV that has clearly not shown signs of improvement in years

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Members vs. participants[]

This project may be interested in efforts to replace "members" by "participants" in all wikiprojects. The matter is being discussed at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Women in Red and Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Council.--Ipigott (talk) 10:05, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

Larry Lawton[]

I'm cleaning up this article. The article originally read like a promotional ad so I've trimmed a lot of the fluff from it. The main problem was a lack of sources, as he hasn't been covered that much in online sources but mostly Florida print newspapers. So I clipped a bunch of newspaper articles on him. So if anyone wants to dive in and help that's be great. Harizotoh9 (talk) 05:03, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

I have now completely re-written the article from top to bottom and sent a request for peer review. Harizotoh9 (talk) 00:09, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

Anyone interested in English Abbesses in France/Belgium?[]

I have just added about a dozen new biographies to your project in the last hour. Anyone care to copyedit / check them? Find them in my edit history. Victuallers (talk) 18:03, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

More Information please[]

I have been removing information relating to John Thomas Hartman Jr, a totally different person born in 1922 - including notice of death this year. It would be good to see more information pertaining to the real John Hartman. e.g. What is his full name? (talk) 00:39, 18 February 2021 (UTC)George Burrell 18 February 2021

Japanese actors and actresses and notable works[]

I notice that in multiple articles about Japanese actors and actresses, the infobox contains extensive "notable works" lists which border close to listing every single role they've ever had. Is there an established consensus for limiting how many works should be listed in this parameter? Thanks in advance! Jalen Folf (talk) 05:41, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

Mountbatten-Windsor[]

I can see some name changes in the royal family articles like Prince George of Cambridge or Anne, Princess Royal Even in their articles it is clearly stated “members of the Royal Family who are entitled to the style and dignity of HRH Prince or Princess do not need a surname” Why we are rewriting history by adding Princess Anne’s article to Mountbatten-Windsor surname which she never use. She married two times. Also their birth certificates (which actually are public documents) doesn’t use Mountbatten-Windsor surname. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Berfu (talkcontribs) 18:20, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

Reassesment of Thomas (bishop of Finland)[]

Thomas (bishop of Finland), an article that you or your project may be interested in, has been nominated for a community good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 16:36, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

FAR notice[]

I have nominated Frank Klepacki for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Hog Farm Talk 00:17, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

Help with a possible citogenesis[]

Hi there. I'm aware this talk page isn't for a specific article, but Ganesha811 and I have been working to try to figure out what we believe is a citogenesis issue over at the biography Joseph Bazalgette. The article's talk page and this post on the Teahouse are basically what's been discussed up to this point. We've both been searching, and we can't find any pre-2007 sources for the claim that – until today – was made in our article. Along with everything discussed in those two threads, I've also searched the Internet Archive's books, but to no avail. I was hoping anyone here would know a good resource I could use to potentially track down something to confirm the original claim in our article or if anyone here would know of a WikiProject more suited to direct me to such a resource. TheTechnician27 (Talk page) 02:17, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

March 2021 at Women in Red[]

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Women in Red | March 2021, Volume 7, Issue 3, Numbers 184, 186, 188, 192, 193


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