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How do I search and upload a video?

September 25[][]

Something weird here. Timeline generator screw up. I don't know how to fix it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ( • contribs) 07:35, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

The Mothers of Invention (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Yesterday's edit tried to use the "gray" colour keyword but got the syntax wrong - see Help:EasyTimeline syntax#Colors. I've restored the previous version. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:51, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

Import of article[]

Hi Folks!! Would I be able to import this [1] article into Wikipedia. It is covered by this licence:[2]]. The article is fairly written and referenced, but it would be need to be updated. Certainly other references would be going in and other stuff would pulled, which in the interim 2-3 years, have found to be scrap. All-in-All, vis-a-vis its pretty decent and wouldn't take a lot of work to get it up to speed. It links to this: Sonderkommando Rote Kapelle and this Red Orchestra. Thanks. scope_creepTalk 11:58, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

You can, just add an attribution notice with {{CCBYSASource}} to the bottom of the article. – Thjarkur (talk) 12:39, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
@Þjarkur: Coolio. Thanks. scope_creepTalk 14:22, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

Copy-and-paste problems in wikitable non-English page[]

I failed to copy-and-paste wikitable content of Slovak edition language because my Google Translation unable to translate source content. I wanna to copy as English edition of "Parts section" in Oteckovia in Slovak language. Please if it possible, can you drag all wiktable content to English edition by yourself? The Supermind (talk) 15:51, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

@The Supermind: Welcome to Wikipedia, and thanks for wanting to expand it. Please read the guidance at WP:TRANSLATE and observe that machine translations are not acceptable for articles. RudolfRed (talk) 17:23, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

I mean all wikitable content in Part section of the Slovak language should be bring in the English List of Oteckovia episodes, with it translated completely to English language. I can't do this action. If you can, can you lend a hand please? The Supermind (talk) 07:32, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

Edits reverted[]

I tried to edit some false information in and I keep receiving messages that edits were reverted and that they're vandalism and I'll be blocked, I sent the explanation of why I was editing but it didn't seem to matter, some information is not related to the company whatsoever and other is dated and now false. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 16:04, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

The place to discuss the article is on its talk page, Talk:Frontera Energy. You are edit-warring, and that is liable to get you blocked from editing. David Biddulph (talk) 16:32, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
David Biddulph, Serols is the one that is edit warring with all of us. That user is a bully and when legitimate offers to discuss the matter are made to them, they just ignore them. In my section below I show that I four times made an offer on their Talk page to discuss why they keep reverting my edits and my offers were deleted every time. Cazcuenaga shouldn't get blocked from editing, but a moderator should block Serols. That person reverts edits without justification, and sends threatening messages too which isn't the spirit of Wikipedia. 2A00:23C8:4384:F00:1C75:5933:D6DE:3536 () 16:57, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
The same user that did that to you, "Serols", is doing the same to me. It's really bad. It's simply bullying. They're just undoing legitimate edits, without explanation, and sending threats, and not talking to explain their actions and come to an agreement. I don't know how to report them to a moderator but someone need to! 2A00:23C8:4384:F00:1C75:5933:D6DE:3536 () 16:13, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Hello , the people who work in anti-vandalism sometimes have to rely on heuristics which occasionally may not lead to correct conclusions, I can for example see how from 's point of view this may have looked like someone removing controversial information from the article. However, you provided an apt edit summary and Serols did not. What you should usually do when someone reverts you is to follow bold-revert-discuss and invite the other party to discuss the matter on the talk page. From reading the sources, I mostly agree with your edit, having an entire section dedicated to this tangential event wasn't WP:DUE. I have slightly reworded the section, could be summarized even further. – Thjarkur (talk) 16:39, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
Hello Thjarkur, please see here. Regards -- (talk) 18:00, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

Report a user to moderators[]

I started trying to tidy up an article, it was repetitive and some headings don't even relate to the following paragraph. User "Serols" keeps undoing my edits, without explaining why, and sending me threats on my Talk page. I've tried to ask them multiple times on their Talk page why they keep undoing my tidying up but they just delete my comment. It's simple bullying. I can't get past the first edit of tidying up before they delete my comment.

Here's an example of me trying to talk to this person but they're just being rude and a bully.

Can you report them to a moderator, please? I don't know how to do that but their behaviour is really unfair 2A00:23C8:4384:F00:1C75:5933:D6DE:3536 () 16:11, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

Also, you'll see that the person who started a section above me has a problem is "Serols" undoing legitimate edits. And if you look on Serols Talk page, many other people have had issues with them undoing legitimate edits. For example, someone states that they deleted a page that doesn't make sense and the only source is Facebook, but Serols just undid that deletion. By the frequency of edits, it is clear that Serols isn't actually looking at what they're doing, but just arbitrarily undoing edits from legitimate users and then sending them threats if we dare question them. I don't know if this is an out of control bot or a arrogant user but PLEASE send a moderator or someone in charge to address this. 2A00:23C8:4384:F00:1C75:5933:D6DE:3536 () 16:23, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

For others, the article in question is John CassThjarkur (talk) 16:30, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
User "Ostraoyster" deleted this page in July because it doesn't make any sense: . It is clearly a page made by the subject of the article, referencing the user's facebook page. And "Serols" reverted the legitimate edit. He/she is simply a bully who doesn't look at what they're doing and just reverts edits at random, and sends threatening messages to users if they undo the reversion. PLEASE can a moderator do something about that user and tell them off, as the person in the section above also has the same issue with this user and multiple people on Serol's talk page have complained that their legitimate edits are reverted. Wikipedia is supposed to be a place where we can all do our own little bit, not a place where every change is undone by an arrogant bully! 2A00:23C8:4384:F00:1C75:5933:D6DE:3536 () 16:52, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
I would also recommend following bold-revert-discuss and starting a discussion on the article's talk page. If no one has replied in a few days, just reinstate your edit. I do agree with you that Serols not using edit summaries and only using templated warnings is only going to lead to annoyed new editors, but I would really recommend trying still to start a talk page discussion. In the Ostraoyster case, Ostraoyster's removal was not distinguishable from page-blanking vandalism. – Thjarkur (talk) 17:12, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

Hindi versions[]

why articles are not in hindi translation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 16:43, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

That just means no one has written a translation yet. You could be the one to do it by going to (talk) 17:04, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
You can find avice at WP:Translate us. --David Biddulph (talk) 19:34, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

WP:PR issue[]

I requested for peer review of an article on 1st September. It is still unanswered. But my request in Main section (where the answered ones stay) instead of staying in Unanswered section. The article: Wikipedia:Peer review#Vidyasagar Setu. ❯❯❯   S A H A 18:25, 25 September 2020 (UTC)


Forgive my laziness; I no longer actively edit but there's a minor concern that I'd like to voice, since I don't intend to do anything about it personally.

It's come to my attention that User:Kroger4 likes to edit but doesn't follow the guidelines. He/she appears to watch YouTube videos and then come to Wikipedia to add links to those videos. Some are helpful additions, some are less than encyclopedic quality External links, and some are definitely against policy — using YouTube videos as references, often for dubious information.

There are a number of notifications on his/her user page which appear to have been ignored. I think Kroger4 would like to make useful additions and be a better editor but simply doesn't fully understand how. I don't think sanctions would be helpful. Perhaps some mentoring is in order if anyone has the time? Just my two penneth. Cheers.

Please note that I probably won't see any replies to this message as I'm busy with other things. I just thought it would be worth mentioning. Regards, nagualdesign 18:41, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

Beatrice Chanler[]

Beatrice Chanler (edit | visual edit | history) · Article talk (edit | history) · Watch

Hello, My grandmother, Beatrice Ashley Chanler, was born Minnie W Collins in Dartmouth MA according to birth records registered in the town of Dartmouth, MA. Her mother was Eliza Tully Collins. A few minutes after revising my grandmother's name and birth data, I retured to the site to see the old erroneous info is there. Will it take time for the corrections to be on the site?

William A Chanler 3rd — Preceding unsigned comment added by ( • contribs) 18:42, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

  • Hello . I looked at the changes you made. They were reverted by another editor because they were not sourced. Wikipedia doesn't use "First hand information". Unless you can find a source (A book, website, video, ect...) that shows that correct information, other editors will revert the changes. Hopefully this helps. Elijahandskip (talk) 18:50, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
@:, the site policies require the use of secondary, reliable sources, neither family recollections or primary documents such as birth certificates are used to support biographical claims. After reviewing the article Beatrice Chanler I notice that the current information is not well-sourced, either. The best place to work out content disputes such as this is the article's talk page. I would suggest that you and Cmacauley attempt discussing this discrepancy there first. (Note:I revised your header because very long headers such as this can cause problems with displays on some devices.) I hope that helps. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 19:00, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

Making a template that fills a list with all pages in a category?[]

So, I'm trying to make a template that fills a list in a template with all the pages in a specific category. Is this possible? And if so, how do I go about doing that? () 18:48, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

Hello , this isn't currently possible, we have to manually sync categories and lists. Or are you talking about how to most effectively create a list manually from a category? What is the template you're interested in filling? – Thjarkur (talk) 18:56, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

Courtesy vanishing rename request.[]

I’m in the process of attempting to retire/abandon my account. There’s an article on wikihow about how to do various things step by step in the process and one of them is for filing a rename request. It says; “To do so, go to this page and enter your new username. Make sure it is in the format Vanished user ####### (where # are random numbers)”.

So my question here is does that mean the request I should send should be for a rename along the lines on vanisheduser and then a series of numbers or am I misinterpreting what’s written there? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lexxxicide (talkcontribs) 18:52, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

@Lexxxicide:, I don't know what Wikihow article you are referring to but that isn't related to this project. The actual guideline you need is this one here. The steps there say something similar to what the other article but not exactly the same: The best way is to visit Special:GlobalRenameRequest to access the rename request interface. Requests made this way will be processed by global renamers or stewards. Please specify "request to vanish" in the reason field; your requested username should be of the form "Renamed user nnnnnnnnnn" replacing n with random characters. So, yes, you need to include some text in the "nnnnnnnnnn" section. You can use this tool at to get a string to enter and check Special:ListUsers to make sure your string doesn't overlap with anyone else's. I hope that helps and I'm sorry you're leaving. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 20:04, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

Minimizing or maximizing[]

How do you minimize or maximize a file? Gioguch (talk) 18:58, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

Are you referring to making images larger and smaller? If so, see mw:Help:Images#Size_and_frameThjarkur (talk) 19:27, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

September 26[]

Many edits just adding a space?[]

I came across the edits of this user, that almost all seem to be just adding one single space. I don't understand why they are doing that. Is there something that can be done to slow them down, and to stop cluttering the histories up with tiny edit? Maybe they are just doing it to get their edit count up? Thanks peterl (talk) 00:31, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

Contact a checkuser. —A little blue Bori v^_^v Hasteur Hasteur Ha-- oh.... 01:44, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
They're trying to become extended confirmed, you can see that the account was inactive until exactly three months after it was created. – Thjarkur (talk) 08:54, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
Submitted a sock puppet investigation. They agreed behaviour unusual, and may be trying to circumvent XC, but closed the investigation as not likely a sock puppet. I've marked a number of these one-space edits as vandalism. How else to stop this behaviour or alert an admin? peterl (talk)

Shenandoah County[]

Please add Shenandoah County to your list. Box Office Brewery, 177 East King Street, Strasburg VA Thank you Mary Price — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 02:49, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but this is the help desk for assistance in editing Wikipedia. It's not clear how your request relates. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 04:31, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

Invisble reference error[]

Hi, I'm currently working on a and have noticed that it's included in the hidden category 'User pages with reference errors'. I'm a bit stumped as to what's causing the problem as there isn't a visible cite error message and refTools error check isn't picking it up. I'm using the shortened footnote templates. I'd appreciate it if someone could take a second look (in case I'm missing something obvious) or point me in the direction of an editor who's experienced with this. Cheers, Jr8825Talk 03:21, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

@Jr8825: See Help:Cite errors/Cite error references duplicate key. In your case, the duplicate key is "FOOTNOTEBrownePearson200616–17". Jackmcbarn (talk) 03:25, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for the quick spot @Jackmcbarn:. So I know for the future, how did you find the error? Jr8825Talk 03:29, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
@Jr8825: I'm not sure why you don't see it. For me, it's big and red right under the "Citations" heading. Jackmcbarn (talk) 03:31, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
Hmm very strange, perhaps I need to clear my browser cache. Thanks again! Jr8825Talk 03:32, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

Change in Cause of death of Sushant Singh Rajput[]

discuss at Talk:Sushant Singh Rajput- not here

The cause of death of indian actor Sushant Singh Rajput is still not confirmed by any government agencies as it's under investigation. Please change the cause of death from suicide by hanging to "under investigation". CBI is still investigating this case. No sources other than CBI is eligible to confirm the actual cause of death. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ( • contribs) 10:12, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

Sorry, we summarize what independent reliable sources state, and they state that this man killed himself. If that changes, the article will be changed accordingly. We do not need an official government finding- which from what I understand people who do not think he killed himself would not likely believe anyway. Please review the talk page of that article for more information. 331dot (talk) 10:26, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

Note that Talk:Sushant Singh Rajput is presently semi-protected specifically because of the relentlessness of requests like this. It's incredibly unlikely that these users will do any sort of follow-up and to that end, it's better to just revert the requests off, especially if they start flooding the page. —A little blue Bori v^_^v Hasteur Hasteur Ha-- oh.... 19:53, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

Need help with copying code[]

Hey guys. Is there any way that images which gets updated on main page of Wiki commons gets updated simultaneously on my user page too. LearnIndology (talk) 11:32, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

LearnIndology, As far as I know, although it's quite easy to do on Commons - just add {{:Main Page/potd}} and {{:Main Page/motd}} to your user page, I don't think it's possible to do it here. ~~ Alex Noble/1-2/TRB 12:58, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
@LearnIndology: Have a look at Wikipedia:Wikimedia Commons/POTD. This relies on a bot that updates a page here once a day with the image name and caption from commons. -- John of Reading (talk) 13:20, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
Thanks guys, but I need to increase the size of the image. I want to make sure it fills the whole empty space on my userpage, how can I do that? LearnIndology (talk) 13:51, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
PS It would be fine if anyone will do it by himself on my userpage. LearnIndology (talk) 13:55, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
@LearnIndology: I've switched the coding to use a larger size. I don't know if there's a way to get the image to scale itself to fill whatever space is available to the left of the infobox. -- John of Reading (talk) 15:38, 26 September 2020 (UTC)[]

The crest of arms in the above Wiki article about the UYS family is absurd and should be removed: it depicts a farmer with a little basket over his arm and 3 unions beside him -- as if UYS was derived from UNION... In the 1930's some enterprising artist invented family crests for dozens of families and sold them to gullible country folk in South Africa. No UYS family crest has been registered by the SA Bureau of Heraldry. Moreover, the UYS surname was originally NIJS from Amsterdam and Leiden. And they were humble sailors: not aristocracy with family crests. See articles by Dr JF UYS 'DIE EERSTE UYS' ('The First UYS') in FAMILIA (Journal of the Genealogical Society of South Africa) 2011 and 2013. () 11:34, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

The claimed origin of the arms depicted is fairly well described in the article's text, though you are welcome to add to it any of the details above that you can cite to independent, published reliable sources. (Whether the source you mention qualifies may depend on the rigor of the Journal's editorial practices, since the author mentioned likely has a conflict of interest in the matter.)
Canting (punning) arms have been used for many centuries, and are not usually taken to suggest a real etymological derivation of the family name, although some people may have believed in such an origin: rather, such arms are often a deliberate joke based on the name.
In modern heraldic practice, most Heraldic authorities will design and/or grant arms to anyone within their jurisdiction who is of good standing, upon payment of the requisite fees; "aristocratic" origins or status are not a consideration and most arms bearers are not aristocrats. This certainly holds true in South African heraldry, where registration of arms with the Bureau is in any case voluntary, though it has the advantage of enabling one to sue if someone else "usurps" one's registered arms. {The poster formerly known as} () 15:06, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

New article to read[]

hey Romulus32, can you make a new article? I want to watch and read your new article, bro! — Preceding unsigned comment added by () 12:03, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

Courtesy ping for Romulus32, who is otherwise unlikely to be aware of this request. {The poster formerly known as} () 14:38, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

Cathedral Basilica of the National Shrine of Our Lady Aparecida[]

It is necessary an edition in the title of the page Basilica_of_the_National_Shrine_of_Our_Lady_of_Aparecida, in 2016 the church was recognized as a Cathedral, therefore nowadays the most recognized name is Cathedral Basilica of the National Shrine of Our Lady Aparecida (see the Portuguese version of the page). This also will help to provide better access to information. 12:47, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

Please discuss this on the article's talk page. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 22:58, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
Thank you for the answer, but this request is already on article's talk page since 29 July 2020, with no modifications or answers until now. 23:21, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
If you're unable to move it yourself and the move isn't controversial, you can submit a technical move request here. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 02:57, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

Brownsville Texas Incident of 1906[]

The Brownsville Texas Incident of 1906: It was LTC (Ret) William Baker's tireless research and persuasive legal brief, while stationed at the Pentagon in 1972, that convinced the Secretary of the Army to reverse President Theodore Roosevelt’s decision to discharge without honor the 167 black soldiers of the First Battalion Twenty-fifth Infantry accused of shooting up the town of Brownsville Texas in 1906. Colonel Baker certified the lone survivor, Dorsie Willis in 1973, who received $25,000 in compensation after 66 years. This reversal is documented in the New York Times obituary of Colonel Baker by Sam Roberts, October 8, 2018, and by Secretary of the Army Howard H. Calloway in 1972, who honored Baker with the Pace Award and the Legion of Merit. Colonel Baker's book on the topic, The Brownsville Texas Incident of 1906: The True and Tragic Story of a Black Battalion's Wrongful Disgrace and Ultimate Redemption, was published May 5, 2020, Red Engine Press. It won a Silver Medal from the Military Writers Society of America, September 2020. Thank you for your response. Dr. Bettye Foster Baker. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:982:8202:43F0:D04C:6F67:5130:A71F () 17:30, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

Is this about an existing article (maybe Brownsville_affair?). If so, please start a discussion on that article's talk page. RudolfRed (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 19:42, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

Punctuating a hyperlink[]

Could anyone please tell me whether or not a hyperlink consisting of a word should include any punctuation marks immediately following it, like a period or comma? (Edit: Went ahead and made the edit so the period was part of the hyperlink, though if anyone says otherwise, then I'll change it.)-- (talk) 19:08, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

I would say "no", because then you have to pipe it. --Orange Mike | Talk 19:46, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
@Orangemike: What if it's an external link, which are usually piped anyway? (Sorry not to specify that I was talking about external links.)-- (talk) 20:54, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
@:I !vote "no". The punctuation should not be part of the blue text. For me, this is more about how you and the reader should think about the syntax. The blue text in within the clause or sentence. The punctuation should come after the clause or sentence consistently. Consider the case of a series of comma-separated clauses, one of which ends in blue text. If the comma is within the blue text, then you get one blue comma and the rest of the commas are black, violating the principle of parallel structure. -Arch dude (talk) 21:07, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
@Arch dude: Thanks for telling me. I'll take your word for it and reverse the edit I made, if no one's replied to it. Also, tangential question, could you please tell me if my tense usage in the first sentence of my earlier response ("which are usually") was grammatically correct? Sorry to bother you over it.-- (talk) 21:12, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
I tend to place punctuation inside external links because of that icon that appears after them, I feel it can look off to have text+icon+period. – Thjarkur (talk) 22:55, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
@Thjarkur: Thanks, but I'll go with what the other two responders here have said, unless/until someone else agrees with you.-- (talk) 00:40, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
@ and Thjarkur: Might be worth a search at WT:MOS to see if it's been discussed before. I agree this looks awkward: However, this is kind of weird, too: Example. This is another solution that binds the EL icon more tightly to the link by putting a space before the period: . I tend to add a space like this in emails and other writing outside Wikipedia to make it clear that the period is not part of the URL, though I think that within mainspace here, I'd just find a way to avoid having punctuation immediately after an EL. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 17:36, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

Communication between contributors[]

00:17, 5 September 2019‎

On this particular edition, the entire part of my edition was removed.

Before I simply undo the deletion, is there anyway that I could communicate with the person or in this page group to find out why the deletion is necessary? I mean: if it was because my message was inappropriate, I need to know in what sense, and how to revise it. If it is simply due to a geographically political differences perceived by the deletor, s/he can put a paragraph above or below mine to dispute, rather than simply delete other people's contribution. Thank you and best regards, jdeng793 — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 20:15, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

@: Start a discussion on the article's talk page. You can also leave a message on that user's talk page, but since it is an IP account, there is no knowing if the same person will see it or not. RudolfRed (talk) 20:17, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

September 27[]

Trying to find a way to make suggestions and influence policy.[]

How can I make suggestions and influence policies on Wikipedia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 00:47, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

Hello . The Wikipedia:Village pump (policy) is a good place to start. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 00:51, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

Why am I not seeing the "editing toolbar"?[]

Menu bar that purports to appear when I edit a page. Except that it doesn't.

I have been an editor for 10 years, averaging 1½ edits per day, but I have never created a table. I'd like to give it a try. According to Help:Introduction to tables with Wiki Markup/1, "The easiest way to insert a new table is to use the editing toolbar that appears when you edit a page." The reference is apparently to the toolbar at the left. Despite 5582 edits, I don't think that I have ever seen it before calling up the Help page today. As a novice table-creator, I'd like to follow "the easiest way" but I don't see how I can. Advice, please? Peter Brown (talk) 00:48, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

@Peter M. Brown: If you mean you see the first row of icons but not the second one, click "> Advanced" in the first row to make the second row appear. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 01:38, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
I have not seen either row before today. From my familiarity with other software, I can guess what some of the symbols mean, but I don't see them anywhere on the page that appears when I click [edit] at the top of an article or section. If I could gain access to these icons, would clicking on XI let me create subscripts without the need to type <sub> and </sub>? That would be handy. Peter Brown (talk) 03:17, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
@Peter M. Brown: Please check in Preferences -> Editing that the checkbox next to "Enable the editing toolbar" is checked. If it isn't, check it and save your prefs.
@Peter M. Brown: forgot to sign. Victor Schmidt (talk) 06:01, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
@Victor Schmidt: OK, I can retrieve the "edit toolbar" following your instructions. I can see that it would be useful occasionally. For tables, I dunno — the do-it-yourself instructions seem clearer than those called up by the icon.
Thanks. You can "close" this inquiry, or whatever you do when the person requesting help is satisfied. Have a good day.
Peter Brown (talk) 16:55, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
@Peter M. Brown: Note there are some other useful things there, like the magnifying glass that brings up a search/replace dialog that knows how to do regex. Also, the pencil to the left of >Advanced turns on useful syntax coloring in the edit window. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 17:40, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
I shall have to study the Regex article; it's rather long.
I assume that you meant to refer to "⌵ Advanced", not ">Advanced".
I do have a question relating to Special:Preferences § mw-prefsection-personal: it says that the answer to "How do you prefer to be described?" will be public. How, as a member of the public, can I obtain this information on an editor? In a talk page discussion involving two or more other editors, I regularly refer to one as "he" while addressing another, but I realize that "she" (or even "they") may be more appropriate. I gather that there is is a way of finding out without changing the subject by asking explicitly?
Peter Brown (talk) 20:59, 27 September 2020 (UTC)


Anne Marie Trevelyan Sinophobia Accusation

In this section I want to change to this and inclube emojis as they were part of the texting incident how do I add them as I have tried and it didn't allow me to do so

In May 2020 Labour MP and first British female MP of Chinese decent Sarah Owen crisited Trevelyan for a WhatApp message of a split fortune cookie that says: “You not have coronavirus.” captioned: “Just received my Covid-19 rapid test kit from China. Soooooo relieved!” with a follow up message of "Just for Bob 😉." refering to Conservative MP Bob Seely who repsoned by sending "❤️😊". Owen said “If Anne-Marie Trevelyan doesn’t understand why this sort of humour was left in the 1970s, I would be happy to explain it to her. In recent weeks we’ve seen East Asians spat at, beaten up, verbally attacked and had their businesses targeted. Seely responed to Owen by saying " “It was a well-meaning joke at my expense and I didn’t think anything of it.” refering to Seelys campaign against the Chinces tech company Huawei. Trevelyan has not repsoned to Owen — Preceding unsigned comment added by VictoriousDwarf (talkcontribs)

Place to discuss this would be the article talk page. However, emojis don't render well for some users e.g. those on screen readers, so probably the text is better for accessibility. Joseph2302 (talk) 08:13, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
@VictoriousDwarf: Another alternative would be to replace the emoji with a bracketed description of it, like "[heart emoji] [smiley emoji]". There's probably a way to add the emojis with those descriptions in alt text properties, too (probably described at MOS:ACCESS). I'll note that there are multiple typos in the text you quoted above – it should be edited carefully before use, especially considering the topic area, in which people are likely to mis-construe. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 17:49, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

Photo upload[]

I uploaded a photo but Wikipedia would not allow me to use it for some odd reason, though I am the owner of the photograph.

Anyways, please contact me as soon as possible. I do not want nor think my draft should be deleted either. I am making a historical documentation of the artist X-Calibur via this platform. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Urbanunityproductions (talkcontribs) 06:38, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

Note: user has been indef blocked. Joseph2302 (talk) 08:09, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

Discussion at Module talk:Excerpt § Denglisch bug[]

 You are invited to join the discussion at Module talk:Excerpt § Denglisch bug. Soumya-8974 talk contribs subpages 09:49, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

adding a note[]

I've searched the help sections, but am struggling. I want to add a note to some text I have written. This is subsidiary backup, but not a published reference, so it seems like a note would be a good way to include the data. But although I can see notes on pages, I can't find how to create one. Can anyone help please?

Simon — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 10:59, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

This will tell you how to do what I think you want to do. -- Hoary (talk) 12:23, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
@: information in a article that is not cited to reliable sources can be challenged or just deleted at any time by any editor, whether it is in the main text or in a note. -Arch dude (talk) 15:15, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

I added the reference as a citation not a note, as the process to add a note was just too complex for me. I don't understand why Wikipedia has to make it so much harder than just adding a citation or link? For the record, I had stated that a designer (W. Heath Robinson) had created a range of illustrations for use on pottery "c.1928". To back this up, I gave a number found on the actual pots, which implies that the design was registered in 1928, and therefore that the range was designed in the same year. I considered that the general reader wouldn't need that level of detail, and that the citation didn't really fit into the same category as a published book or article, as pottery pieces can't be referenced in the same way. This is why a note would have been ideal. But I gave up, and referenced it as a citation anyway. Sure, if someone wants to challenge it that's up to them, but Wikipedia doesn't seem to understand that not all citations are straightforward. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 16:32, 27 September 2020 (UTC) -- (talk) 16:32, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

@: we tend to accept photographs as being legitimate. If you still have access to these pieces, you can take photos of those marks. If the pieces are on display in a location that is accessible to the general public, It constitutes a "reliable source" even without such a photograph. It really is a citation, not a note. We do not require that citations use our templates. Templates are a convieninece, and when they get in your way, you should just fall back on our general principle of verifiability (i.e., give enough info for someone else to verify your information) which seems to me to be what you are doing here. Please note that my original hostile-sounding response was a generic response to your fairly generic statement that you were referencing a "non-published reference", which is basically a no-no: see WP:OR. I'll take a look at the article and see if I can help: a note attached to the ref may be the way handle this. -Arch dude (talk) 17:53, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

Thanks. I do have a photo of the backstamp on the piece, which could be uploaded, but think it would be a bit too much detail for the page. After all, while the jug I have pictured on the page is pretty, and relevant to the subject of the page, an image of a backstamp would be a littl dull for the general reader, I feel. Of course, if there was a way up uploading the image as a reference, not on the page... I quite understand that you were only sounding a little hostile for very good reasons. Not a problem. -- (talk) 18:02, 27 September 2020 (UTC)Simon

Someone I don't know tried logging into my MediaWiki account[]

I got an email this morning, saying that someone had requested a reset of my MediaWiki password. I never requested this password reset; in fact, I'm not sure that I even know what MediaWiki is. Can someone explain the difference between MediaWiki and WikiMedia? Of the two, I'm only familiar with WikiMedia. Apparently, I do have an account on MediaWiki, but according to the contributions page, I've never used it before. I am very active on Wikipedia though.

The email that I received specified the IP address of whoever requested the password reset, and WP:TRACEIP says that can be used to determine the owner of an IP account, but I'm not very tech savvy and am not really sure how to use WHOIS. When I go to that website and enter the IP address of whoever requested my password reset, I'm shown five boxes. The first box is titled "Network", the second box is titled "Organization", and the next three boxes are all titled "Point of Contact". All of the boxes except for the one titled "Network" list a location. Not all of these locations are the same. The location listed under "Organization" is also listed under the last "Point of Contact" box, while a separate location is listed under the first and second "Point of Contact" boxes. These two different locations are in different states. Both of the locations for the IP address that I looked up are in the USA, as am I.

Can someone help me better understand what's going on? Why are there two different locations listed across four different boxes for that IP address on WHOIS? And should I be concerned that someone tried to access my MediaWiki account? No one that I know would have had a reason to log into any of my Wiki accounts. --Jpcase (talk) 14:22, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

MediaWiki is the software that runs Wikipedia. You've probably opened a help page there regarding wiki-syntax or something, and all the Wikimedia-run sites share the same log-in session. You can safely disregard these emails, they usually appear after you've had a run-in with some long-term abuser who is trying to annoy you, but there is no danger of them gaining access to your account. – Thjarkur (talk) 14:51, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
If you are worried, you can request two-factor authentication to further protect your account. Ed talk! 14:56, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
@Ed6767: Two-factor authentication is only vaguely familiar to me as a concept, but it seems like lots of other websites are encouraging everyone to use it, so do you know why Wikipedia only grants it on a case-by-case basis? -Jpcase (talk) 00:08, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
@Jpcase: your WHOIS data is simply the response of a WHOIS server. See WHOIS to help decipher the response. -Arch dude (talk) 15:12, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
I'm not very good with computers, and there's a lot of technical information in the WHOIS article that would take a long time for me to grasp.
Is someone able to either explain very quickly the difference between the two different locations listed by WHOIS for the IP account or point me to the specific section of the WHOIS article that explains this? I can't think of any nefarious reason for why someone would have tried to hack me, but I'm still curious whether or not the password-change request came from an area where I actually know people or if it simply originated with some random stranger. Thanks! --Jpcase (talk) 16:19, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
@Jpcase:Please provide the IP address. Otherwise, this is just too abstract. You have no moral obligation to that IP user to keep it private. -Arch dude (talk) 16:23, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
There's no need to share the IP address with us (since it might be yourself!). But you can go to, it will give you the city. I think you've been looking at the information of the ISP company who owns the IP, rather than geolocation. – Thjarkur (talk) 16:44, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
@Pjarkur: Ah, thanks! I just double-checked the results on WHOIS and realized that I made a mistake - at first, I thought that there were two different locations listed across the four boxes, but now I'm realizing that there are actually four different locations listed. The first box doesn't list any location, but each of the subsequent four boxes lists its own unique city.
The reason I got confused is because the four cities are evenly divided between two different states. The city listed on is a completely different fifth city but appears to be very close to the city that WHOIS lists under the "Organization" box. Two of the cities listed on WHOIS are close-ish to me, but the city listed on is in a completely different part of the country from me. So if the IP address is the location of the person who tried accessing my account, then there's essentially zero chance that it's anyone I've ever met. Would there still be any benefit to providing the IP address here, or should I just ignore all of this going forward? --Jpcase (talk) 17:18, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
Just ignore, there's very little one can do about this. – Thjarkur (talk) 17:37, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
@Pjarkur: @Arch dude: I just noticed a notification from two hours ago showing that someone thanked me for creating this conversation. Which wouldn't be particularly strange, except that when I click on the profile name for the person who thanked me, I'm shown that the profile doesn't actually exist. So as far as I can tell, it seems like someone created a Wikipedia account specifically to "thank" me for my edit and then immediately deleted their account. Is there anything I can do about this? I have to wonder whether the person who clicked the "thank" button for my edit is the same person who tried accessing my account this morning. --Jpcase (talk) 19:30, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
(The account in question in Willy Nice, the account still exists but hasn't made any edits). Yes it's just someone trolling you, nothing to do but ignore. – Thjarkur (talk) 21:21, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
@Þjarkur: Yes, that's the account name. How did you know? I didn't realize it was possible to see another person's notifications on Wikipedia. I realize that I should probably just ignore this, but I'm very confused about who this person is. I don't know anyone who would have any reason to troll me. --Jpcase (talk) 22:34, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
I can't see your notifications, but thanking someone appears in the logs, see hereThjarkur (talk) 22:35, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

How can I add about myself[]

How can I add about myself and about my whole family. For Example like : Birla Family (Already exist in Wiki). I wanna add similar contents for my Family i.e Sharma Family — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 15:37, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

That's not possible to do here on Wikipedia (unless entire books have been written about the Sharma family). You could instead create your own website (tools such as are popular) and post content there. – Thjarkur (talk) 15:50, 27 September 2020 (UTC)


How do you search a video by uploading it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 19:36, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

I'm sorry, , your question doesn't make any sense to me (and I suspect that others have had difficulty too, or somebody would have answered). Please explain what you are trying to do in Wikipedia that you need help with. --ColinFine (talk) 09:05, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

How do I create my own website?[]

How do I create my own website? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 19:38, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

This is not a general help desk. 331dot (talk) 19:47, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
Do you mean a Wikipedia user page? I see you haven't created one of those yet. If you want to do so, start here: It's quite easy - and fun! Regards, BuzzWeiser196 (talk) 20:29, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

September 28[]

Creating a page[]

I wish to know how to create a page

Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 05:46, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

, if you mean that you want to create a WP-article, take the time to read Help:Your first article. WP:TUTORIAL can also be of help. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 06:24, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

What is Wikitia? Why Article not shown on Google Search[]

Hi team, I have a small query. My client written an article on Wikipedia. But still not approved since 2 months. But I see, same article about Director/Producer is published on Wikitia.

Will it be shown to wikipedia also? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gaganmehra93 (talkcontribs) 08:36, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

As you were told on your user talk page, if you are editing on behalf of a client you need to make the mandatory declaration as laid out at WP:Paid editing before you make any further edits. If you tell us the name of the article, we can look to see why it hasn't been approved. Wikitia is an entirely separate encyclopedia, not connected with Wikipedia. You will see from the front page of Wikipedia Wikitia that it has 3,793 articles in English, whereas Wikipedia has 6,165,466 articles in English. David Biddulph (talk) 08:51, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

Suchetgarh Railway junction[]

Symbol redirect vote2.svg Courtesy link: Suchetgarh Jn. railway station

There is no such station in Pakistan. It was a station in JK India. Now abandoned. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 09:00, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

How to Edit Deadlink please?[]

Anyone can help me with guiding me, how to edit deadlink? thanks in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ( • contribs) 09:31, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

For guidance on how to dead with a dead link, read Wikipedia:Dead link. --David Biddulph (talk) 09:35, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

User Contributions that *aren't* latest revisions[]

I note that there is an option for Special:Contributions to Only show edits that are latest revisions. This only shows the edits that are marked (current).

Is there any way to reverse this, that is, for pages I have contributed to, only show edits later than my most recent revision?

I would like an easy way to spot if somebody has edited an article or responded to a talk page I have contributed to (without having to watch all those pages).

Thanks CapnZapp (talk) 11:05, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

If you open your browser console you could enter $('.mw-uctop').each(function(){$(this).closest('li').remove()}) to achieve that effect. – Thjarkur (talk) 11:32, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

Fetching last revision date and time[]

I'm looking for a block of code that fetches the last revision date and time of a WP page and displays them in Nepal Standard Time (NPT) in the format d mmm T NPT. I want to bypass the need to manually update the "Last updated:" part in Template:COVID-19 pandemic data/Nepal medical cases by province and district. Best, Inimesh (talk) 11:34, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

Would it be sufficient to just mark the day when the template was last edited? If so you can use {{REVISIONYEAR}}/{{REVISIONMONTH}}/{{REVISIONDAY2}} → "2020/09/28" – Thjarkur (talk) 13:32, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
Following up on that:
{{time|npt|df-cust=j M g:i A|hide-refresh=yes|_TEST_TIME_={{REVISIONTIMESTAMP}}}}29 Sep 3:27 AM [[Nepal Time|NPT]] → 29 Sep 3:27 AM NPT
|df-cust= accepts the formatting codes used by {{#time:}}.
— (talk) 13:47, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
Many thanks, Þjarkur and ! Inimesh (talk) 15:13, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
I think that this experiment is a fail. Whenever someone edits COVID-19 pandemic in Nepal § Notes (as a whole-page edit or as a section edit), {{COVID-19 pandemic data/Nepal medical cases by province and district}} will be re-rendered. Re-rendering apparently uses the article's new revision timestamp. I confirmed this by making this edit. The date displayed in the template agrees with the time of my edit:
{{time|npt|df-cust=j M g:i A|hide-refresh=yes|_TEST_TIME_=2020-09-28T15:46:00}} → 28 Sep 9:31 PM NPT
You might want to take this question to WP:VPT.
— (talk) 15:52, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

How to reference that sources banned from Wikipedia eg InfoWars, Daily Mail spread conspiracy theories?[]


I'm working on the article for the Cultural Marxism conspiracy theory (a far-right, antisemitic conspiracy theory which claims Western Marxism as the basis of continuing academic and intellectual efforts to subvert Western culture) and I'm compiling a list of organisations which promote or spread the conspiracy. Both InfoWars and Daily Mail have used the term and promoted the conspiracy however I can't use their articles as references because they are blocked. What is the policy for referencing this kind of thing? I've actually found a number of sources which Wikipedia considers reliable which also spread the conspiracy e.g The Times and the The Spectator but I'm unsure if I should link to these directly.

Thanks very much

John Cummings (talk) 11:49, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

John Cummings, you must find reliable sources that name these newspapers as sources that spread the conspiracy theory. So don't cite the things themselves, cite a reliable source that says it about them. Popcornfud (talk) 11:53, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
(edit conflict) Citing those sites' own articles to support claims that they advocate the conspiracy theory would be primary-source based original research. What you really need are independent sources saying that those sites spread it (e.g. a NYT piece or Routledge book saying "InfoWars spreads this conspiracy theory"). Ian.thomson (talk) 11:55, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
Thanks @Ian.thomson: and @Popcornfud:, could you point to the policy page for this? I'm confused because it doesn't seem like original research because they use the term outright e.g Toby Young wrote an article called "Are the cultural Marxists in Retreat, or Lying Low?". Is it true that I should find sources that reference them spreading this conspiracy even for sources that Wikipedia accepts as sources, or only for those that don't? John Cummings (talk) 12:01, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
WP:PRIMARY, but that is somewhat contextual. There's also the argument (not exactly policy but commonly accepted consensus in many other cases) that we would need an independent source to establish that the (say) InfoWars article wasn't an anomaly or that it was noteworthy. Ian.thomson (talk) 12:06, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
John Cummings, if a source says something like (to make up an example) "Cultural marxists are the biggest threat to the world right now", that doesn't show that the source is wrong, or that cultural marxism is a conspiracy theory. You need other sources to say that. Does that make sense? Popcornfud (talk) 15:17, 28 September 2020 (UTC)


Hello, could I request for admin? — Preceding unsigned comment added by BossDragon64934 (talkcontribs) 15:53, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

BossDragon64934, hello, and welcome to Wikipedia! Unfortunately, you will probably not be nominated for adminship as you have made only 19 edits. However, to answer your question: see WP:Requests for adminship/Nominate Heart (talk) 15:57, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
(edit conflict)BossDragon64934 You have made 19 edits ever to English Wikipedia, so you are not experienced enough. Most admins will have at least a couple of years of solid editing and at least 5,000 good edits. Note that you don't need admin permissions to do most things such as create and edit content on Wikipedia. WP:RFA is the process for it, but I advise that if you do try, you don't have a chance right now of being successful. Joseph2302 (talk) 15:59, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
(edit conflict)BossDragon64934, I have to agree with HeartGlow30797, you are not yet ready to become an admin. That said, there are a lot of ways to contribute to Wikipedia without being an admin, and contributing in those areas will help you learn the ropes and the rules and policies that admins are expected to implement, and in a year or two you may be able to demonstrate that you are ready. I recommend looking at the task center and maintenance areas for things you would enjoy doing.  Get your feet wet doing copyediting, fixing typos and grammatical errors. Then move on to referencing.  Category:Articles lacking sources is a good place to start; look for things in your local library or on the internet that verify the information in articles that are lacking sources and add citations to the articles. At some point you will naturally migrate into deletion discussions; especially if you come across an article that is a hoax or totally unverifiable. By participating in activities like adding sources and deletion discussions, you will gain an understanding of notability and sourcing and how they play together. At that point you'll be ready to try writing an article. Perhaps you'll find a red link in an article you're copyediting and be curious about the topic, or maybe a source you're using for one thing will have information about something we don't have an article about, or maybe you'll want to take a look at requested articles and see if there's something you either know something about or are curious about and want to write. Research and write the article. Nominate it for the did you know section on the front page. Work to develop it to Good or featured status. Then do it again. Do a few articles. Keep an eye out for vandalism and fight it. Maybe get into new page patrol (especially once you've written a couple articles yourself). Do NPP for a while, and then you'll be ready. ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 16:11, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

2021 Major League baseball season[]

Can you fix the error i made about Ron Roenicke being Fired please. (talk) 16:47, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

Fixed There were a number of problems with both cites in that section, not the least of which was that neither link pointed to the article intended. There were a number of typos in parameter names for the cite templates as well. I think I found and cited the correct sources. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 17:22, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

citations help in wiki translator[]

Hi, So my attempts at using the translator from wiki failed miserably in the citations area. My atempts at searching to find a guide or further info simply found me really random stuff. The named reference inline citations dissapear in the translated text (as the linked terminology works, I find this odd). It also shows up with tons of errors, not a single citations was correct. Is the best practise to sinmply go through and re-enter citations by hand into the new language? I am thinking there I am not the only one with this problem and that there must be a fix.... I hope a non-manual one. Thanks for the help BF (talk) 17:03, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

@Thebaconfairy: Can you provide some details, like which translator, which source and target articles, etc.? Different Wikipedias have different ways of doing citations, not all of which are necessarily supported on all others. I can imagine (though don't know) that some translators don't know how to deal with cites well or at all. The talk or other support page of the translator itself is probably a better place to start, though. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 17:26, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

My Spanish to English & English to French both failed. Either there has to be a go-to method or there isn't, I would be very surprised if this was a special circumstance. --BF (talk) 17:50, 28 September 2020 (UTC) BF (talk) 17:50, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

@Thebaconfairy: Again, please provide both of: 1. a link to the translator you are using; 2. a link to a Spanish source article that failed to translate to English. Have you tried asking at the translator's talk page (if a wikipedia tool) or other support page, where you are more likely to find people familiar with the translation tool? —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 21:42, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

Interview as Source[]

Hi, My article on The Word Balloon podcast was not approved because it said I did not have enough reliable sources. Most of the information about the background of the podcast came from an interview/discussion I had with the creator/host of the podcast. How can I site this so that my article gets approved? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 20:27, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

Interviews are not useful for proving notability as Wikipedia defines it, full stop. —A little blue Bori v^_^v Hasteur Hasteur Ha-- oh.... 20:34, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
@: - the article Draft:Word Balloon Podcast appears to be sourced primarily with a blog, itself not a reliable source. Without broader coverage, it will be hard to show that the podcast is notable. (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~.) TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 20:37, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
Timtempleton When you say it's primarily sourced to a blog, do you mean Bleeding Cool? Wikiproject Video games and Wikiproject Comics both consider it reliable. Now, I would agree that it needs broader coverage than just one publication in order to be notable, but I don't think Bleeding Cool is unreliable, just not enough by itself. ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 21:07, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
ONUnicorn good to know - I didn't check to see that it also has an article - I was going on first impressions of the layout, and the fact that it was pretty much the only site used as a source. So I stand corrected on reliability, although few blogs meet that threshold. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 21:22, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
Such an interview is of no help in establishing notability. The reliable sources need to be independent of the subject. --David Biddulph (talk) 20:36, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
In addition to what everyone above said about establishing notability (and arguably more important than notability) an unpublished interview is not something that is verifiable by other people. If you talked to someone and wrote a Wikipedia article based on your conversation with them, there is no way for anyone else to verify that that conversation took place as described. Even if the interview is published, the fact that you conducted the interview constitutes original research, which is not allowed. Now, if someone else did an interview and published it in a reliable publication, it would then be able to be cited for facts, but it still wouldn't contribute to notability, because notability requires sources that are produced independently of the article subject. So, if you find a published interview, you can cite it for facts but in order for the article to remain on Wikipedia there also has to be multiple sources besides the interview which satisfy the requirements imposed by the notability guidelines. ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 20:55, 28 September 2020 (UTC)